Chickeny Chickless Seitan | Shreddable Vegan Chicken

Look no further for realistic, shreddable plant-based chicken that has the perfect taste and texture to replace skinless, boneless chicken in your old favourite recipes! This seitan chicken is high-protein and satisfying in all sorts of dishes, including:

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close up cubed vegan chicken-style seitan showing meat-like texture

Why you’ll love this Shreddable Vegan Chicken

Chickeny Chickless Seitan is easy to make, mostly hands-off, and has a toothsome meaty texture. The ingredients and techniques used help to avoid common complaints about making seitan. That is, we take away the wheaty, doughy flavour that some seitan recipes seem to ignore and prevent it from becoming gummy or rubbery.

partially shredded vegan chicken seitan

In this post, I’ll give you the details on how to make the most versatile vegan chicken alternative, the special ingredients that take shreddable seitan to the next level and troubleshooting tips to help you navigate issues, especially if you’re not too familiar with making seitan.

How to Make Chickeny Chickless Seitan

Making this shreddable seitan chicken is simple but it does take some time. Here are the basic steps:

  1. Liquify the wet ingredients in a blender and use a mesh sieve to strain out any lumps.
  2. Combine with vital wheat gluten (AKA pure gluten flour) to form a dough
  3. Knead until smooth and taffy-like (about 40 minutes knead time in a stand mixer, resting every 10 minutes)
  4. Wrap and Steam (in a pressure cooker for best results)
  5. let cool overnight, then cube, tear or shred as desired!

Video Tutorial

Step by Step Guide

Before you begin, make sure you are measuring all the ingredients accurately. I highly recommend using a kitchen scale to make sure your measurements are exact as the liquid to dry ratio is important for the process. Keep reading to get more in-depth on how to make this most realistic vegan chicken. 

ingredients for realistic vegan chicken in blender

1. Liquify

Combine all the ingredients EXCEPT for the vital wheat gluten and refined coconut oil. Blend at maximum speed until its completely liquified. Then while the blender is running at low speed, add the refined coconut oil (melted). Finally to prevent any lumps that would otherwise mess with your seitan’s texture, run the liquid through a mesh sieve.

liquid ingredients being poured into bowl of gluten flour

2. Form seitan dough

Weigh out your vital wheat gluten in a mixing bowl, then add the wet ingredients. Stir manually or use your stand mixer’s paddle attachment to form a soft wet dough.

just mixed soft and wet seitan dough

3. Knead

Switch to a dough hook, then ramp up the speed slowly. Let the machine knead at as high a speed as it can without rocking or hopping around your counter. For me, that’s speed 4 to 6 which means about 40 minutes of knead time. However, most at-home stand mixers are not going to be able to be run that long so every 10 minutes, I stop for a 15 minutes rest period. This allows the machine to cool down. Plus, the gluten strands relax and become even easier to knead.

Hands stretching torn piece of seitan dough after first round of kneading


However, this means the kneading process, including all the resting time, adds up to 1 hour and 25 minutes. Luckily, it’s pretty much all hands off so you can relax and put your feet up. Just set a timer every time you switch from kneading to resting and vice versa.

After second kneading, hands stretch small piece of dough about 2 inches

On the other hand, some other that use this process (such as the original Chickwheat recipe by my friend at AvocadosandAles.com) utilize a food processor and seem to get the same result in under 10 minutes! If you have a sturdy, high quality food processor, you may want to try using that instead. Divide the dough into two portions (or more depending on the size of your machine) and pulse the dough until it becomes soft, smooth and taffy-like. 

thin stretched seitan dough after 3rd round of kneading


When the seitan dough is fully kneaded it will be soft, stretchable and taffy-like. You can test it by taking a 1-inch piece and stretching it. It should stretch to at least 4 inches without tearing.

taffy-like, smooth and soft seitan dough after 4 rounds of kneading

Manually Kneading

You might be thinking you can do this by hand and maybe you can. Especially if you share the workload with another person; you can take turns. Team work makes the dream work!

But as for me and my chronic pain; we are not going to try. If you do, let me know in the comments how long it took you! Because you probably deserve a round of applause.

4. Wrap and Steam

Divide the dough into two pieces. First, you will knead each piece by hand very well so the texture will become tighter and shinier. In just a minute or two, it will become quite tight and difficult. At this point, you’ll wrestle it into a log shape, rolling it up, and secure it by stretching one end over the entire roll.

hands rolling up one smooth piece of seitan into log shape

To make it extra secure and prevent expansion during cooking, wrap it tightly in some parchment paper, and then some aluminum foil. Then you can repeat with the other piece of dough. 

two rolled up pieces of shreddable seitan chicken dough

You can try cooking your seitan without the parchment and foil wrapping too. When your seitan is kneaded well enough, just shaping the dough as specified should be enough to hold it together when you pressure steam it. However, it’s hard to know without having tried it before. So, I recommend wrapping one log and leaving the other one naked. Then you can see the difference for future batches and save on some material.

Two chickeny chickless seitan logs in steamer; one wrapped in aluminum foil
Prepare your programmable pressure cooker (like Instant Pot or Cosori) with 4 cups of hot, just-boiled water and the steamer insert. Place your seitan logs in there and cover with the lid. 

  1. switch the steam valve from open to closed,
  2. switch to Manual Mode,
  3. adjust the cook time to 1 hour and 30 minutes,
  4. adjust the pressure to high (maximum), then
  5. press start

Just set it and forget it!

5. Cool and Process

When the time is up, you can use the rapid release or let the pressure release naturally. Either way, when it’s safe to do so, remove your cooked Chickeny Chickless Seitan with tongs or heat-resistant gloves.

One pound log of chickeny chickless seitan in foreground, shred and cubed seitan in background
Typically, I put the cooked seitan in a container to cool in the fridge overnight. Letting the seitan cool completely before processing it further helps to retain the moisture and keep it juicy for whatever dish you have in mind.

hand holding a cube of seitan showing layered texture
When it’s cooled, you can chop it up, tear it into chunky pieces with your hands, or shred it as finely as you like with a couple of forks.bowl of seitan chicken shreds

Shredded Chickless Seitan is fantastic to use in Vegan Chicken Salad, tacos, and on pizza.

jackfruit chicken salad side view

Hand-torn, it’s perfect for stir-fry dishes like Vegan Chicken and Broccoli or battered and fried, like in my Vegan Sesame Chicken.When cubed, this vegan chicken is super satisfying in stews and soups like my Vegan Coconut Curry Chicken and Vegan Chicken Pot Pie.

Special Ingredients to make this the BEST

While shreddable, chicken-y textured seitan has been on the scene for years, this recipe was formulated from the ground up to be super succulent and delicious right out of the steamer. There are a few special ingredients that help.

Oyster Mushroom Powder

Oyster mushrooms have a really lovely savory, kind-of chickenish flavour that becomes concentrated and even better when they’re dried.  I add it to this recipe because:

  • it makes seitan more delicious with a full-bodied meaty flavour,
  • the fiber improves the texture and helps to prevent the seitan from becoming rubbery

However, it’s not common to find dried oyster mushroom powder in stores so you may have to make it yourself. Which, I know, sounds like a hassle. To be honest, I thought about leaving this out of the recipe because it does add an extra step if you’re not already in the habit of making mushroom powder. But it really makes such a difference that I never leave it out when I’m making seitan these days so I find it’s really worth the time. Plus, it makes a wonderful addition to sauces, soups, roasted vegetables, pasta and more! Click here for my in-depth post on how to make your own Oyster Mushroom Powder.

The basic process for making oyster mushroom powder is:

  1. dehydrate clean, fresh oyster mushrooms until completely dry and crisp (using a dehydrator OR in the oven), then
  2. grind into a powder (using a spice grinder, clean coffee grinder or similar)

And that’s it! This recipe uses 3 tablespoons or 12 grams of oyster mushroom powder which is equivalent to 1/4 lb of fresh mushrooms. Think about how concentrated that flavour is! So when I make a batch, I will load my dehydrator up with a full pound of mushrooms. Then about 3 hours later, I’ll have lots to use in all my cooking. It also makes a lovely gift for friends who like to cook too!

White Vinegar

Seitan is made from wheat protein and can often have a strong wheat-y or dough-y flavour even when it’s fully cooked. Add a good amount of white vinegar to cut through that wheatiness. And, in conjunction with the mushroom powder and other flavouring ingredients, it creates a delicious savory flavour.

If you don’t have white vinegar on hand, rice wine vinegar works almost as well. However, avoid apple cider vinegar. It’s too fruity for this recipe.

Vegan Chicken-style Broth Cubes or Bouillon Paste

It almost feels like cheating, but vegan chicken broth concentrates are a convenient way to incorporate the super savory flavour of long-simmered vegetables and herbs that are combined to taste similar to traditional chicken broth. I like to use either McCormick’s All Vegetable Chicken-style Broth Cubes or Better Than Bouillon Vegetarian No-Chicken Soup Base.

MSG (Monosodium Glutamate)

Sold commonly under the brand names Accent and Aji-No-Moto in the spice aisle where salt is sold, MSG has long endured a poor reputation. You might be surprised this was based on a single unscientific letter written to the New England Journal of Medicine in 1968. From then, racist attitudes propelled the mistaken belief in “Chinese restaurant syndrome” into popular culture. 

In this recipe, a teaspoon of MSG is used to boost the flavours of the other ingredients as well as add a slight flavour of its own. If you left it out of the recipe, your seitan will still taste good but the MSG really completes the flavour profile.

Refined Coconut Oil

The solid-at-room temperature coconut oil in this recipe adds fat to the seitan without being greasy. While some vegan recipe creators avoid fat, I find it is essential for making seitan satisfying. Use refined coconut oil to avoid adding a coconut flavour to your vegan chicken.

Chopstick holding glossy vegan chicken and broccoli over a wok

Troubleshooting Tips for Making Seitan

If you’ve ever tried a random seitan recipe, then decided it’s absolutely terrible and you wonder how anyone can enjoy it, you’re not alone! Seitan can sometimes be gummy, oddly chewy, spongy (brains!), or otherwise awful when not prepared well. As well, it can taste unpleasantly of wheat; reminiscent of raw bread dough. Read on for the common problems and fixes for making wheat meat!

Gummy or weirdly chewy seitan

When seitan isn’t cooked completely through, it will have a gross gummy texture. It will often taste like uncooked bread dough too. Especially when you have a large loaf of seitan to cook, it may come out nicely cooked on the outside but still raw in the middle even after an hour of cook time!

So this recipe uses a few techniques to make sure your seitan cooks all the way through.

  • Dividing the seitan dough into two logs rather than one giant hunk allows the batch to cook faster
  • Pressure Cooking reduces the time needed, plus as a bonus, cooking under pressure results in a firmer bite
  • The long cook time (1 hr 30 minutes) ensures that your seitan is thoroughly cooked whether you choose to quick release the pressure or let it naturally release.

Actually, I tested cooking times from 45 minutes to 2 hours and found 1 hr 30 minutes to be the happy medium. To be honest, 1 hr 15 minutes was enough for most of my batches but cooking for a little extra time does not hurt the seitan in any way. Plus cook times can vary from location to location so this ensures you won’t be caught with semi-cooked seitan after all this effort.

Raw Dough Taste

Even when cooked all the way though, seitan can sometimes have an unpleasant wheaty flavour. Eliminating this flavour requires strategically adding other ingredients. In this recipe:

  • Adding vinegar counteracts the wheaty flavour. In my previous seitan recipes, I often included a little bit of vinegar. However, in this recipe I tested more ratios and found that adding ¼ cup of white vinegar worked best in conjunction; and
  • Using plenty of savory ingredients including vegan chicken-style broth cubes, dried oyster mushroom powder and MSG mask the base flavour of vital wheat gluten without making it too salty.

Rubbery or Spongy Textures

You may have heard or read that over-kneading seitan can make it rubbery, squeaky and tough to bite through. This can be true especially when there is not enough starch or fiber in the formula. However, there is a bit of a bell curve going on. Kneading seitan dough, then letting it relax and then kneading even more (to the taffy stage), gives it a lovely texture that is firm (when cooked in a certain way) and not rubbery at all.

Spongy seitan often results from simmering seitan and letting the simmer get too active. So to eliminate that possibility, this recipe steams the seitan under pressure. Plus, the seitan is kneaded and wrapped well so that it doesn’t get to expand and go spongy.

If you steam this seitan without a pressure cooker, it will be quite alright; great even. However, the result is a bit springier (not spongy though). I find the texture of Chickeny Chickless Seitan much more toothsome and satisfying when cooked under pressure.

Making substitutions? Keep these tips in mind.

For the best result, please prepare this recipe as strictly to the original ingredients and directions as possible. 

For example, if you use tofu instead of beans, there is less fiber content. The kneading process actually goes quicker BUT the texture of the final seitan is a bit more “squeaky”. I would not say it’s unpleasant but it’s just not exactly as nice as it could be.

If you forgo the dried oyster mushroom powder, you can make up the dry ingredients in extra vital wheat gluten or nutritional yeast (12g). However, the fiber content goes down and the texture is affected. Plus the mushroom powder gives the seitan an irreplaceable depth of flavour.

White vinegar can be replaced with rice vinegar. However, rice vinegar is a bit more mild tasting and you may taste more of the wheat-y flavour of gluten come through. On a related note, I don’t recommend using the tangy darling of the culinary/health food world: apple cider vinegar. It’s too fruity for this recipe.

I hope that answers all your unspoken questions! But if you have more, please feel free to leave them in the comments and I will try to answer you as best I can. Enjoy!

Printable Recipe for Chickeny Chickless Seitan


Yield: 2 lbs

Chickeny Chickless Seitan | Shreddable Vegan Chicken

Chickeny Chickless Seitan | Shreddable Vegan Chicken

A perfect vegan stand-in for chicken to veganize your favourite chicken recipes. Use this shreddable seitan anywhere you want so toothsome high protein texture and savory flavour like in vegan chicken tacos, vegan chicken sandwiches, and vegan chicken soup!

Please measure by weight for best results.

Prep/Waiting Time 1 hour 45 minutes
Cook Time 1 hour 30 minutes
Total Time 3 hours 15 minutes


  • 415ml cold water (1 3/4 cup)
  • 170g cooked white beans (1 cup)
  • 60ml white vinegar (1/4 cup)
  • 3 cubes vegan chicken-style bouillon cubes (or 1 tablespoon)
  • 3 tablespoons dried oyster mushroom powder (12g)
  • 1 tablespoon sugar or Erythritol sweetener
  • 1 teaspoon salt
  • 1 teaspoon msg
  • 60ml refined coconut oil, melted (1/4 cup)
  • 360g vital wheat gluten (12.7oz; 3 cups)


  1. Blend first 8 ingredients until liquified. With blender running on low, slowly pour in melted coconut oil. Strain to remove any lumps.
  2. Mix with vital wheat gluten by hand or in mixer.
  3. Knead & Rest: With dough hook, slowy ramp up speed to 6 (or as high as you can go without your mixer hopping about on your counter). Knead for 10 minutes then stop, cover dough and rest for 15 minutes so your machine can cool and the gluten can relax. Repeat 4 times (skip the final rest period).
  4. Set 4 cups of water to boil and also get your programmable pressure cooker out.
    Divide into two portions, knead each until shiny and quite stiff. Roll into a log, wrap the end over to secure. To secure further, wrap tightly in parchment paper, then aluminum foil.
  5. Pour 4 cups boiling water into the pot and add the steamer attachment. Place your wrapped seitan inside. Cover and close steam vent. Press Manual Mode, set cook time to 1 hr 30 minutes and pressure to high (maximum). Press start and pat yourself on the back.
  6. Afterwards, use quick release or natural release. When safe, remove the seitan from the pot and let cool. Refridgerate overnight. Then you can unwrap and process as you like: cube, hand tear or shred with forks as desired.

Nutrition Information:



Serving Size:

3 ounces (85g)

Amount Per Serving: Calories: 270Total Fat: 10gSaturated Fat: 6gTrans Fat: 0gUnsaturated Fat: 3gSodium: 291mgCarbohydrates: 11gFiber: 1gSugar: 1gProtein: 35g

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  • Susana Ostrowski

    Hi Mary!

    Thank you so much for all the time you took to make and write the recipe and shoot the video. You are AMAZING!

    I am thinking of using one of the rolls for a “turkey” roast for Christmas. I am thinking of cooling it ahead of time (for the flavour and texture to develop) and then adding some seasoning outside and sauteing or broiling it. Do you think that would work?

    Also, can I substitute miso for the MSG (maybe 1 teaspoon)? do you think that would work? maybe cut down on the salt in the others ingredients.

    I would love to hear your feedback, thank you again!

    • Mary

      Hi Susana,
      Thanks so much for the kind comment 🙂 Since there are no rules, of course you can try substituting the msg crystals with miso. However, it’s really not going to have the same effect. Pure MSG is just more potent and irreplacable in this recipe. I’ve tested it with miso and it’s okay but just not as good.
      If you decide to go ahead with miso, don’t cut down anything else.

      As for making into a roast…that’s a bit trickier. I would not cool it overnight and them broil it again whole…I think it would dry out before it could become warm enough in the center. Instead, I would treat it like a Tofurky roast. You can look up the instructions on that; it involves braising to keep it moist. Then after you get the internal temperature up, then go for the broiler.

      Hope that helps!

  • Clay

    Thank you for this — can’t wait to try it! My seitan attempts in the past have all come out spongey or rubbery, so I’m really glad you suggested a few ways to get around that.

    • Mary

      You’re most welcome, Clay! Please let me know how it turns out for you 🙂

  • Susana Ostrowski

    Hi Mary,

    thank you so very much for your detailed comments, I appreciate it so much!

    • Mary

      You’re most welcome, Susana! 🙂

  • Jennifer

    This looks well worth the effort – except that I live alone now and can’t possibly use so much fresh. Does this keep its texture after time in the freezer? And would it be better to freeze raw, then thaw and cook, or freeze after cooking? Thanks.

    • Mary

      Hi Jennifer,
      Totally! I always love fresh best (it lasts about a week in the fridge) but you can certainly freeze it. Let it cool after cooking like normal, then divide into the portions that you prefer, wrap up nicely and freeze for up to a month in the fridge. The texture keeps pretty well.

  • M

    Thank you for this recipe! I used it to make coq au vin (using serious eats method of marinating it in wine and cooking it for shorter to still get the flavor without overcooking it). Fantastic — finally a seitan that doesn’t taste wheaty.

    I wanted to leave this tip for anyone who followed the kneading instructions but still didn’t get a taffy-like texture after 4 rounds in the mixer. Mine was really stringy/was curled around itself in long stands and looked nothing like the photos/video of the final dough. I ended up increasing the resting time to 25 min and doing two more rounds in the mixer and got to the taffy stage, and honestly I think I could have done with one more round. So if you’re in this position, keep going and judge by feel/appearance instead of stopping early!!

    • Mary

      Great notes, M! Thank you so much for sharing your experience! I gotta try that serious eats coq au vin recipe too. Sounds perfect 🙂

  • Gail

    Well hello, not yet friend, Mary! I woke up this morning to my chilled logs of chickeny seitan after my marathon production efforts yesterday. It didn’t come out perfectly…and STILL is the best chicken/turkey substitute EVER. Note I made the mushroom powder; used MSG (first timer); and followed directions to a T.

    I wonder whether you use not-chick’n bouillon as your cubes. I believe a couple of my issues were bc of it. It doesn’t ‘activate’ without hot water, and so in the blender, it stuck to the sides, and never dissolved; the fats in it don’t blend correctly in the dough. I’d be tempted to add hot, not cold, water next time to first dissolve the cubes.

    Issue 1: my dough, despite following exact directions, never formed a smooth uniform texture. The gluten formed stretchy, developed strands, but it was more like a big hunk o’ colon. I continued to mix, and did some hand-kneading, but it never formed what I see in your photos. I was able to tuck it all in and pull the ‘blanket’ of itself over the hunk to make it a log.
    Issue 2: Final product is amazing, but it doesn’t have layers like yours. It’s dense, and took serious hand strength to shred, but not well.

    Ideas on all this?

    • Mary

      Hi Gail!
      Congratulations on your momentus efforts! And I’m so glad you enjoyed your results!

      I used McCormick’s all vegetable chicken style broth cubes and had no trouble getting them to blend. You might try dissolving yours first with a LITTLE hot water first before adding to the blender (of course substracting the liquid amount from the full amount of cold water).

      I think I know the texture you are speaking of but you’ve got to take it further. It will eventually come together into a cohesive taffy-like dough. And it’s gotta have that taffy texture to get the tender shreddable texture in my experience. If it takes longer, it takes longer. One thing you can try is to rest it for longer between kneading sessions. For example, instead of just 15 minutes, let it sit for 30 minutes and then keep kneading. And keep it in a warmer place in your kitchen too. If it’s quite cold in your kitchen, it can slow things down.

      The final product should be really easy to shred. Even before chilling, when it’s still warm, it should already have the tender shreddable texture.

      However, I think the *bite* is better after chilling. On the other hand, the colder it is, the harder it can be to shred. So I store in near the front of the fridge rather than the back. And you can also leave it out for a while just to let the chill off before processing it (cubes, shreds, etc).

      I hope that helps!



  • Tina

    The recipe looks fabulous i was dreaming about making it . But now i did everything and the dough doesnt seem to come together at all . Its wet its strandy it wont come together yet look like ur pictures i have been kneeding and resting now for almost 3 hours extended time of rest to 30 min put it in warmer place and still it wont come together how can i recover it i dont want all of this dough to go to waste and im scared to pressure cook it when it looks like this it wont even form a log 🙁

    • Mary

      Hi Tina,
      I’ve had that happen when I left out the mushroom powder before. Sounds like you did what I would’ve done: put it back in the bowl, cover and rest for a half hour. Then I would put it back in the mixer and knead for another 15 minutes.
      Or you can put it in the fridge overnight. Then in the morning, let it warm up at room temp for an hour and knead in the mixer again. It should come together.
      Regardless, don’t waste it. The texture may be different from my results but it should still turn out tasty and delicous. Go ahead and shape it as best you can, wrap up and pressure cook.
      Please let me know how it goes. Good luck!

      • Joe

        I had that happen to me tonight. I just added in more VWG, maybe 1/8 cup at a time, until the dough wasn’t wet any more. Don’t add too much or your texture will by yucky. I always rest my seitan for at least 1/2 hr. before steaming to allow the gluten strands to strengthen. Hth

  • Yiorgos

    Thank you for your great recipes. Amazing results and really detailed explanations.
    Could this be used after steaming for a fried chicken sandwich or should it be shaped differently all together from the start? I mean a chicken thigh or whole breast type of piece not little nuggets.

    • Mary

      Hi Yiorgos,
      Thanks so much for your kind comment. To answer your question, you can probably make pieces from the steamed loaf for a fried chicken sandwich but if you want to shape it differently before cooking, I think that would be okay too.

  • Mia

    Hi Mary ,

    I just made this and it was phenomenal!, I have one question I have an instant pot and steamed for the recommended time mine came out good but once it cooled the next day the outer texture was a bit tough and rubbery.I ended up using a vegetable peeler to get the top layer off and the rest was great. I did double wrap i in parchment and foil could that be the issue? Love all your videos!

    • Mary

      Hi Mia,
      So happy you made this! I find it does get a little tough on the outside too after it’s chilled completely. But when you add it to stews or stir-fries afterwards, the tenderness comes right back. I hope that helps!

      • Mia

        Awesome Thanks Mary One more Question …. if I change tge chicken stock with beef broth could i make this into beefy beefless seitan ???

        • Collin

          I think that could work! Better Than Bouillon makes a fantastic vegan no-beef bouillon paste which I love. As another commenter suggested, it needs hot water to activate the bouillon so it blends properly, therefore I would actually mix the bouillon in like 3/4 cup of boiling water to dissolve it before adding it to the dough – just don’t forget to remove that much water from the recipe.
          Also, if I were doing it, I might actually also replace 1/2 cup of the water with dry red wine or sherry, and maybe add 1 tablespoon tomato paste to the dough. They can add lovely, rich, complex flavors and umami, and also help color it a bit more reddish. But I have not tried this so it’s totally up to you! Maybe Mary will weigh in on this at some point.

          • Merrill Brown

            Wow those are some great suggestions I may have to try that ! I used the beef bullion and substituted red cooking wine for the vinegar but I didn’t think of the tomato paste! My version was good but the tomato paste may turn it up a notch! Great Suggestions thanks 😊

  • Danny

    I made this and it’s easily the best, most meatlike seitan I’ve made to date. There’s a tikka masala recipe I want to make that calls for tofu to be coated with salt, corn starch, and olive oil and roasted at 400°F for about 20-25 minutes. Could the seitan be prepared similarly?

    • Mary

      Hi Danny,
      I’m so happy to hear you’re enjoying this recipe! I can’t really say how to adjust the recipe you’re thinking of. If I was making tikka masala with this seitan, I would simply crisp it up by sauteing before adding it to the curry. It’s already so flavourful compared to tofu so I don’t think it would require the roasting component. I hope that helps.

  • Evelyn Bednarz

    I’m really excited to try this. I loved the twice frozen tofu ‘chicken’ What about switching out the oil. Coconut oil does not agree with me would olive or avocado work?

    • Mary

      Hi Evelyn,
      Refined coconut oil was used because other oils (liquid at room temp) change the texture. I would not use olive oil or avocado oil as I found these leave a slightly bitter flavour. Perhaps another oil that is more neutral in flavour would work for you. But of course, you’ll have to accept the texture won’t be just as I intended. Hope that helps!

  • Sue

    Keenly looking at how I can make this, I don’t have a pressure cooker but I do have a Sous Vide appliance. Would this method work and what would be the temperature to set it at? And if I can also ask, would the cooking time be the same? Thanks in advance,

    • Mary

      Sorry, Sue. I haven’t used a sous vide so I couldn’t guess how to adapt this recipe for that method. You can steam it conventionally but you’ll need to increase the cook time and add water periodically.

  • Nora

    This recipe looks amazing, but can we use dried shiitake mushrooms instead of oyster mushrooms? It would really help to know.

    Thank you.

    • Mary

      Hi Nora,
      Shiitake and Oyster Mushrooms have completely different flavours. Shiitake have a deeper more pungent earthy flavour while oyster mushrooms have a light savory almost chicken-like flavour. So I would say no if you’re trying to recreate the flavour I have created in this recipe. However, you still might enjoy it with shiitake. Just know that it’s not going to be the same flavour.
      Remember, there are no rules!


    • Vanessa

      Hi Mary, can i use chickpeas instead of white beans ?

      • Mary

        Sure, any beans will do. It just affects the color somewhat.

  • Laura

    Hi Mary! This recipe looks lovely, but I can’t digest beans well at all. Is there any imaginable substitute for beans to get the right texture for shredding?

    • Mary

      Hi Laura,
      If you are good with tofu, use that. Extra firm; use the same amount by weight.
      Hope that helps!


      • Laura

        Thank you, Mary!

  • Trudy

    Hi Mary!

    I have king oyster mushrooms – would these work in place of oyster mushrooms?

    They are a little easier for me to get hold of!



    • Mary

      Hi Trudy,
      I find the flavour of king oyster mushrooms to have a more seafood-ish taste to them compared to regular oyster mushrooms. I haven’t tried them in this recipe but maybe? This is your chickeny chickless seitan and there are no rules 🙂

      • Cheryl

        Thank- you so much Mary, for EVERYTHING!!

        I also do not have a pressure cooker.

        Can you please explain the details of using the steaming method and how the result compares to your pressure cooker method?

  • Shaun

    Hi Mary! Love your YT channel

    Anyway, I usually follow a recipe that’s 3 cups VWG, 1 cup chickpea flour, 1 cup nooch and seasonings.

    This time I decided giving yours a try with a mix of my previous. I figured that in your recipe it’s mostly the technique that gives it that texture.

    I had made some chickpea tofu 2 days prior so I figured I would use 170g of that. I didn’t have refined coconut oil so I just used olive oil. But I used the right water and vinegar measurements plus the bouillon cubes. No mushroom powder. I also used 1 cup of nooch that I added into the VWG.

    I did it in the stand mixer, 10 min, 15 min rest r times. The dough never felt dry but it did become very smooth but also quite tough. After the 4 times, I divided it, I kneaded it and tried folding it under (I even knotted one) and steamed it in my instant pot for 90min.

    The texture was more like ham. Which is fine. And it tasted good. But I’m wondering where I went wrong. Was it the cup of nooch? Should I have accounted for that with more water? Should I have blended that into the wet mixture? Was it because I didn’t use coconut oil and the fat helps with a layered, shreddy/flakey texture? Or did I just misstep somewhere with the kneading process?

    I really want to get this right. If I can I’m going to wrap it in soy skin and make a ‘Turkey’ roast for Thanksgiving lol I suppose if I fail I’ll make it a ham

    • Shaun

      That should have said 4 times*

    • Mary

      Hi Shaun,
      Sorry, can’t give you an answer since I haven’t tried it your way.

  • Cheryl

    hi Mary,

    You’re my hero. I feel absolutely confident when using your recipes! Thanks for the time and consideration you’ve put into such clear instructions.

    I have a stovetop pressure cooker with no dials or settings.

    How do I proceed?


  • Denise

    Mine came out more stringy than doughy off the mixer. It still shredded up beautifully and tastes great (I used porcini instead of oyster for a beefy flavor) so I’m not sure if I over mixed it or under rested it, or under mixed it? It’s fantastic as it is, but I wanted to be sure to get the best results I can. Anyway, Making seitan is fun and it saves a boatload of money. It’s also so easy to customize when you’re the one making it!

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